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When Your Shelves Get Tired Of Being Attached To The WallWhen Your Shelves Get Tired Of Being Attached To The WallAsk MFC

KromertKromert6 anno/i fa
Having lived mostly in apartments since high school, I have become very accustomed to using shelves to display my collection. Since I work an online job, my room has always had to double as a bedroom/office, so space is limited. No Detolfs for this guy! =[

I've also never once lived with a friend who was alright with me having any of my stuff outside of my bedroom, cuz, ya know, we all know that PVC figures and Gunpla are terrifying and chase everyone away, right?

Anyway, wall shelves are definitely a nice way to be able to display stuff for those who don't have the room for anything else, but man, I think I'm over it. I've recently been reworking my collection. Today, I pulled a bunch of 1/144 Gundams off a shelf to dust the shelf and the kits. As I was putting them back on, the shelf got tired of it's horizontal positioning and decided to go vertical. (And it was very secure to the wall, been there like 2 years no problems.) Needless to say, I was picking up Gundam parts for over an hour. Yeah, some shit broke, but all things considered, damages could have been so much worse. Still, I can't exactly say I'm overjoyed by this. (Thank fucking GOD all my master grades are on the other side of my room!)

So I'm a little bummed out, cuz now I'll have to spend a nice chunk of free time fixing up broken kits. But I guess the whole point of me sharing is this-

What should I do?

I feel like putting up more shelves will just result in the same thing, sooner or later. What if they were my Master Grades? Or my scaled figure collection? I think things could have been much worse. If these were PVC's and not articulate kits, I think damage would have been irreparable. And I don't wanna box up my collection due to fear of shelf collapse!

MFC is a very diverse place, so I'm sure some of you guys have similar issues with space or whatever. How do you guys display your stuff when space is so limited?

If anybody has any recommendations, hook a brother up!

In the meantime, there will obviously be a short delay on Mobile Suit Tuesdays. (And right after I came back, too!)

Thanks for reading, and your opinions are much appreciated!

EDIT: As was pointed out to me, I should probably include what kind of space I'm working with.
Room is about 9x9, plus has a cutaway. (More space, not less.)
Cutaway has a medium sized desk with a computer stand to each side. I really don't keep figs on my desk so I have some workspace.
I have a queen-size bed with a small nightstand next to it. This is home to a lamp and a few HG Gundams. I also have a ~3 ft tall bookshelf and ~5 ft tall bookshelf, but these are loaded up with dvds/books/games and the free space has been filled with figures.
I have a shelf on the wall that is about 9 foot in length, but not very deep. It's MOSTLY full, not completely. Also a shelf mounted above my closet, but it's friggin small. Lastly, taking up way too much space is my 38 gallon fish tank, another of my hobbies. (I had more space, once upon a time, and I didn't have the heart to get rid of them when I moved.)

So to be clear, I am NOT completely out of space just yet, but I'm running very low, and would like some ideas on what I can do until I am able to move into a bigger residence.

Arigato gozaimasu, minasan!

-Krom
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Kromert6 anno/i fa#2230884
I don't have a stud locator, so if there is one in the wall, then idk where. But no, it definitely wasn't secured to one. I think I'm gonna toss those shelves, or maybe find more secure ways to mount them in another location, and go with something bigger/more secure for my Gunpla. I think this was more a case of bad luck than anything, but I'd rather be safe than sorry!

Stud finders are pretty silly imo. You can find the stud just by knocking on the wall. It feels really different.
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Kromert6 anno/i fa#2230884

I don't what I did wrong but my shelves remain sticky till this day even after a year and a few month for the varnish to dry. I just put down wax paper over it though. Almost learned the hard way on a few items.
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Katto6 anno/i fa#2228848Over here, it'd cost in excess of $3,000 for a simpler version of that frame which is exactly why I haven't got it yet =___= Unfortunately the mark-ups here are a liiiiittle bit batty. If you're a handyman, it definitely would be cheaper to build yourself :P

Yeah, I think I'd rather just build it myself, lol. I don't have the free time now, but maybe by the end of July if work lets up a bit. I can barely manage to build Gundams these days, let alone bed frames! =P Thanks though!

thewookie346 anno/i fa#2228937I use a similar set but without the glass. Sanded and Vanish the selves myself they turned out great. I use the same thing to rest the selves on. had them up for a year with no problem.

I think I'm gonna hit Home Depot on Saturday and get some wood and do this myself, thanks for letting me know! Looks a lot better than how my display looked formerly.

ponnie6 anno/i fa#2228981I have no idea how these thingies are called (brackets or hangers maybe?) but they are usually secured by a couple of screws each - there are little holes in them to attach them to the wall and to the shelf. As long as you screw them properly according to the type of wall you have, they won't fall :)
Hope it works good to secure your shelves!


I'm gonna look around the hardware stores in town this weekend and see if I cant find some like that, it would actually help quite a bit to be able to use corner shelves, I could use the display space! I'll see what all kinds of brackets I can find, I hope to get the display fixed up this weekend, as long as nothing else explodes on me! Lol

Taylormoon6 anno/i fa#2230320What you could do is get a different size bed, one that's smaller, and comfortable still, but if you need more space, that's a good way to make some. I mean, it doesn't seem like you're married so, is the bigger size bed needed? I got rid of my queen size, and got a futon bed, so I could turn it into a cough or a bigger bed, I sleep with it in couch form though since it's only me. I would also suggest looking at IKEA or something cause they have some small display cases, that are tall and skinny, and can fit alot on it. I mean, it's not exactly what you're looking for, but if you don't want things to fall like it did in your post, a display case is the way to go. Or go with shelves that actually screw into the wall of sorts. : )

Thank you for the suggestion, but this isn't somewhere I really wanna compromise. I've been over six foot since early Jr high and had little beds my whole life. It's horrible when your feet are always hanging off the edge! Lol. 4 years ago I bought my first "real" bed, and I seriously don't think I could ever go back! Yet another time that I wish I wasn't so tall. I'm hoping to be able to move in the next ~6 months anyway, so it's more of a "just for now" fix so I don't have piles on Gundams in my closet. Thanks for commenting though!

S12576 anno/i fa#2230531If your shelf fell off the wall, it probably wasn't attached to the stud? You could try reinstalling the shelves with all the brackets on a stud. If you do that properly and don't put a ton of weight on them they should be fine (Not blaming you that your shelves fell! I only know this because the same thing happened to me).
Getting a smaller bed is a very expensive option, but if you reeeeally need more space...


I don't have a stud locator, so if there is one in the wall, then idk where. But no, it definitely wasn't secured to one. I think I'm gonna toss those shelves, or maybe find more secure ways to mount them in another location, and go with something bigger/more secure for my Gunpla. I think this was more a case of bad luck than anything, but I'd rather be safe than sorry!
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If your shelf fell off the wall, it probably wasn't attached to the stud? You could try reinstalling the shelves with all the brackets on a stud. If you do that properly and don't put a ton of weight on them they should be fine (Not blaming you that your shelves fell! I only know this because the same thing happened to me).

Taylormoon6 anno/i fa#2230320What you could do is get a different size bed, one that's smaller, and comfortable still, but if you need more space, that's a good way to make some. I mean, it doesn't seem like you're married so, is the bigger size bed needed? I got rid of my queen size, and got a futon bed, so I could turn it into a cough or a bigger bed, I sleep with it in couch form though since it's only me. I would also suggest looking at IKEA or something cause they have some small display cases, that are tall and skinny, and can fit alot on it. I mean, it's not exactly what you're looking for, but if you don't want things to fall like it did in your post, a display case is the way to go. Or go with shelves that actually screw into the wall of sorts. : )
Getting a smaller bed is a very expensive option, but if you reeeeally need more space...
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What you could do is get a different size bed, one that's smaller, and comfortable still, but if you need more space, that's a good way to make some. I mean, it doesn't seem like you're married so, is the bigger size bed needed? I got rid of my queen size, and got a futon bed, so I could turn it into a cough or a bigger bed, I sleep with it in couch form though since it's only me. I would also suggest looking at IKEA or something cause they have some small display cases, that are tall and skinny, and can fit alot on it. I mean, it's not exactly what you're looking for, but if you don't want things to fall like it did in your post, a display case is the way to go. Or go with shelves that actually screw into the wall of sorts. : )
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ponnie ~Donyatsu Huntress~
Kromert6 anno/i fa#2228679Yup, I liked th "floating shelf" look, but apparently it's not the greatest idea, so it'll be a stop by the hardware store this weekend! What are those corner shelves in that pic? Or rather, how are they secured to the wall? Those look cool!
But I realize it probably was some freak accident...Or my room is haunted by ghosts that hate Gundams, maybe? (*cough* Char Aznable's *cough*) Lol. Thanks for the kind words!

I have no idea how these thingies are called (brackets or hangers maybe?) but they are usually secured by a couple of screws each - there are little holes in them to attach them to the wall and to the shelf. As long as you screw them properly according to the type of wall you have, they won't fall :)

Hope it works good to secure your shelves!
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RockGodItachi6 anno/i fa#2227810Sorry to hear your tale of woe there, hope you can fix them up!
Did you use raw plugs on the shelves? I've had mine up for years and they are as strong as ever, as a raw plug holds the screw in place, also I recommend using some type of racking as that will go on the wall and then you put the shelves on that, which, A it means all the weight isn't on the shelf itself and B it means you move them about whenever you want. Hope this helps.
Here's a pic of mine which was made into a cabinet. :D
http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/600/RockGodItachi1367959529.jpeg


I use a similar set but without the glass. Sanded and Vanish the selves myself they turned out great. I use the same thing to rest the selves on. had them up for a year with no problem.
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kittokatsutsu SHSL Magical Girl
Kromert6 anno/i fa#2228679See, if I had something like that, I could move my dvds/games/etc off of bookshelves and have figures there instead. That's pretty cool though, definitely something I'm gonna look into! Thank you! If it's something you yourself have looked into, any idea what cost would be like? Might be cheaper to build one myself! =POver here, it'd cost in excess of $3,000 for a simpler version of that frame which is exactly why I haven't got it yet =___= Unfortunately the mark-ups here are a liiiiittle bit batty. If you're a handyman, it definitely would be cheaper to build yourself :P
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hatchetsforhands6 anno/i fa#2227588How many mounting points did your shelves have in the wall? As in, how many screws did you use per shelf? I've got my floating shelves hanging up with five molly bolts/five screws per shelf. Also there were no studs in my walls.
I am just perplexed. Gundam kits are the lightest things ever.


Only two, which I suppose could be one of the issues, but who saw that coming? Lol. But really, you and me both. I mean, 20 kits are maybe under 5 pounds total, probably even less! I think I'm just gonna forget about floating shelves and hang up some brackets. I'd rather that than a repeat! Thank you for all your info.

Katto6 anno/i fa#2227591This!View spoilerHide spoilerhttp://hepok.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Walnut-Finished-Bedroom-Set-with-Storage-Bed-805x487.jpg And in case the hotlinking doesn't work: hepok.com/bed-f...
Well, not exactly that, but it was the whole thought of having as much storage space in the bed frame as I could get.
And it's no problem! I'm shocked you were able to get a shelf so securely attached come out :|

See, if I had something like that, I could move my dvds/games/etc off of bookshelves and have figures there instead. That's pretty cool though, definitely something I'm gonna look into! Thank you! If it's something you yourself have looked into, any idea what cost would be like? Might be cheaper to build one myself! =P

ponnie6 anno/i fa#2227674For secure attachment you better use these corner-like thingies to support the shelves. Worked for me pretty fine.
http://larvij.ru/uploads/Image9.jpg
Even the most secure display case can get tired and get loose, it just... happens.
Good luck with repairing your gundams!

Yup, I liked th "floating shelf" look, but apparently it's not the greatest idea, so it'll be a stop by the hardware store this weekend! What are those corner shelves in that pic? Or rather, how are they secured to the wall? Those look cool!
But I realize it probably was some freak accident...Or my room is haunted by ghosts that hate Gundams, maybe? (*cough* Char Aznable's *cough*) Lol. Thanks for the kind words!

dymitr6 anno/i fa#2227714Sounds rough. GL getting everything back to its former state.
As for a solution to your problem. I would consider taking down your games, manga etc. And placing them in something like stackable boxes. These things are quite robust and don't really brake, Meaning they are well suitable to be stored in such a matter and doing so frees up valuable space on your bookshelf in your cabinet where you'll be able to display figures and gundams.

Thank you! I think that's a pretty solid idea, I'd rather have games/movies boxed up than my figures and Gundams, lol. I think something like Katto posted below would work perfectly for that, but in the meantime I'm gonna have to shove some game/movie boxes in the closet. Thanks for the input!

RockGodItachi6 anno/i fa#2227810Sorry to hear your tale of woe there, hope you can fix them up!
Did you use raw plugs on the shelves? I've had mine up for years and they are as strong as ever, as a raw plug holds the screw in place, also I recommend using some type of racking as that will go on the wall and then you put the shelves on that, which, A it means all the weight isn't on the shelf itself and B it means you move them about whenever you want. Hope this helps.
Here's a pic of mine which was made into a cabinet. :D
http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/600/RockGodItachi1367959529.jpeg

Thanks man! If I couldn't fix them, I wouldn't consider myself a true Gunpla enthusiast, lol. There's always the battle damaged route! XP
Never even heard of raw plugs until I just googled it, that's worth looking into. I had them up with "molly bolts" I learned, which seem secure enough, but I guess not!
Honestly though, I really like the racking, it isn't super noticeable and I think I'd feel alot better about it. Most of my shelves are the single floating type, but I have one that's multi-layered like yours, think I'll give the racks a shot! Thank you for sharing!

gumonshoe6 anno/i fa#2228108did you inspect the shelf/mount/screws/wall to determine what caused the shelf to fall? before you put anymore shelves up, this would be good to know. i use detolfs and wall shelves--been considering using more shelves and misc surfaces. i haven't had any shelves fall--knock on wood. i've had some really heavy shelves and i haven't even used the provided/advised mounts/screw types. having lived in a number of apartments it was always the case that residents were prohibited from using screws in walls--could only use small nails to hang things (finishing nails)--unless you were willing to pay for the repairs when you move out.
I prey you never do have a shelf fall, it's a huge bummer! Same though, I've always had to fix the walls everywhere putting these damn things up, lol. I took a look at the shelf, which is fine, the bolts, which aren't bent, and the wall, which had a VERY enlarged hole on the right side- Course, this was probably from it tearing out. I'm pretty stumped as to what caused it, it's as if I put 300 pounds on it! Got a nice thumb-sized hole in the wall now to boot, lol.

Akira6 anno/i fa#2228441I also had the same worry with floating shelves. They look good, but they don't inspire much trust. However, have you considered putting some kind of support down the shelf? Basically putting triangle shaped ones www.lineasfrioy... or those made of steel or whatever metal that you have to screw to the wall.
This seems to be the consensus, and as such I think I'll be going with this route. To be totally honest, I do love the looks of floating shelves, but I'd rather have my collection nice and secure. Cuz like you said, they really don't inspire trust, and even more so now!
Thanks for your opinion!


Really though, thank you all so much for the abundance of advice!
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I also had the same worry with floating shelves. They look good, but they don't inspire much trust. However, have you considered putting some kind of support down the shelf? Basically putting triangle shaped ones www.lineasfrioy... or those made of steel or whatever metal that you have to screw to the wall.
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