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Re: Sculpting a custom figure!Re: Sculpting a custom figure!Diary

breezerbreebreezerbree5 anno/i fa
Hello again MFC~

It's been a while since my last diary entry and I felt it was about time I updated everyone on my sculpting adventures so far. Unfortunately, I have experienced some unexpected setbacks since posting part 2 of my sculpting dairy. Over winter break my father lost my sculpture while taking it to show off to his friends at work T_T. During that time I was out of state visiting some relatives so I wasn't able to begin working on a new one until I came back from winter vacation. A few days ago I began working on a replacement sculpture and so far I am pleased with my progress. Although having to restart sucks, starting over gives me the opportunity to correct the mistakes of the initial scupt. So far I managed to the sculpt the head and neck of the figure using the freeze bake method suggested in the comments of one of my earlier posts.

Here are some screen shots of my works so far. Imo the new sculpt looks a bit more accurate to the original base image. (I forgot to scale the images so the pictures are kinda large >.>;)

http://i62.tinypic.com/qxlwth.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/2qth1sl.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/2hf02td.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/2dh9nhg.jpg

I plan to work on completing the figure in my free time and with any luck hopefully I'll finish it soon. This time I also plan to use electronical wire for constructing a base for the body. This way I can avoid some of the annoying stability issues I dealt with when shaping the first sculpt. As always questions, comments and suggestions are greatly appreciate and I look forward to see what you guys have to think~

Bye-bee :P
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wow I'm so impressed and inspired! This is so amazing! Shame you had to start again but you have a great attitude towards it :) I might actually digitally model a figure I have in mind and then try 3-d printing it, now. Thanks for sharing!!!
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theyasminshow Militant Missionary
I can see where y'all are coming from,

but at the same time, don't come for Saruna alone. 50 people upvoted that comment, that's 50 anonymous people who think the exact same thing. And if Saruna didn't say it someone else would have.
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StephieHerbert5 anno/i fa#2608692
I really don't want this dragged out anymore because in the end it's not changing the way I think. I don't know whether it's just a driving case to prove me wrong or to get a last word or something but I really don't think OP wants to see all the notifications for this.

Edit: In other words please just PM if you want to continue it; the comments on this are so derailed now.
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sarunamirabu5 anno/i fa#2608405StephieHerbert5 anno/i fa#2608104
I seriously do not want to drag this out any more but I feel bad not responding because I don't want you to think I ignored the comment or that I'm trying to blow it off.
I see now that this is one of those things where you basically just say compliments to everyone because otherwise, it's just going to seem like it's attacking, even if it's just how it is. Kind of like you can't really tell an obviously overweight person that they're fat because that's deemed offensive (I couldn't think of a better comparison to explain what I mean). I'm in an environment where honestly a comment like what I said isn't taken so offensively and is just said really "matter-of-fact-ly" so I guess I'm just used to it? So I'm sorry that it offended people because like I keep saying over and over, I didn't say it to offend anyone, but yeah. I see why no one else ever posted that comment now. (Well like one other person after I posted but besides that.)


First, I want to say when I saw your comment the first time, I just assumed that although it came across really mean, it wasn't your intention to be mean so I ignored it. It was just that I saw other people feeling hurt and saying they weren't posting anymore so I felt they should know not everyone agreed or supported the comment.

I would never say to compliment everyone equally or even at all.
I mean if you are in a room of 15 people and you notice one of your friends has lost weight and looks fabulous, you tell her. "Wow you look awesome!", but you don't then go around the rest of the room saying, "but dude, you're still totally fat." That's just mean. And you also don't have to lie to the other 14 and say they look great too. It'd also be mean to tell the first friend, "Wow you look great compared to all these fatties!" (especially when all those people hear you say it)


Continuing with the overweight metaphor, if you are concerned about a friend that's overweight and you want to bring up that fact to encourage them to become healthier, that can be perfectly appropriate. In the same way, if you came on anybody's blog and pointed out areas of improvement so that person could become better at what they are doing, it would be helpful criticism and not just a blanket mean comment towards a group of members.

"You are the prettiest girl in the room" compared to "You are so pretty compared to all these uglies"- The first is perfectly nice, the second is uncalled for (especially when you announce it out loud). In the same way, you could tell the OP that's it's the best you've ever seen on this site without going as far as to describe how bad everyone else is. And truth really has nothing to do with it. You don't walk around pointing out the flaws of everyone you see just for the heck of it. You bring up a flaw if you are encouraging someone to be better.

If you want to make a comparison to the OP, why not go the positive direction and compare OP to professionals.


Bottom line is that you clearly hurt other members, who took the time and posted that it hurt which took courage on their part. If that doesn't bother you, then just move on. But as a community of people with a common interest I would think we'd want to all get along. You can be especially nice towards one person without being especially mean towards others.
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StephieHerbert5 anno/i fa#2608104
I seriously do not want to drag this out any more but I feel bad not responding because I don't want you to think I ignored the comment or that I'm trying to blow it off.

I see now that this is one of those things where you basically just say compliments to everyone because otherwise, it's just going to seem like it's attacking, even if it's just how it is. Kind of like you can't really tell an obviously overweight person that they're fat because that's deemed offensive (I couldn't think of a better comparison to explain what I mean). I'm in an environment where honestly a comment like what I said isn't taken so offensively and is just said really "matter-of-fact-ly" so I guess I'm just used to it? So I'm sorry that it offended people because like I keep saying over and over, I didn't say it to offend anyone, but yeah. I see why no one else ever posted that comment now. (Well like one other person after I posted but besides that.)
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sarunamirabu5 anno/i fa#2607856It's a shame that you view it as "It looking like a child's work means that it's crap" versus "It means that my sculpting isn't a very high level and I have room to improve." If something looks like it was done by a 5 year old I am supposed to say that "Oh wow this looks like it belongs in the Moma!" instead of "Good job on your efforts! You have room to improve so I look forward to how it evolves."
You could feel free to PM me if you want to argue any further to prove I am wrong because I don't want to derail the comments on this post. Apparently my comment was thumbed enough to prove that what I'm saying is valid enough to an extent.


Perhaps you didn't mean it offensive, but it did come out that way to at least some other customizes/sculptors etc.

I think the bottom line is that there is no reason to put down others in order to praise another.

The OP's work is fantastic and OP should be complimented. There's just no reason to bash the rest of community. And comparing other people's work to the work of children can not really be taken any other way than negatively. I'm pretty thick skinned so I'll continue to post my stuff whether you think your dog could have done a better job or not, but I'll be very sad if it causes other members to stop posting what they create. I love seeing everyone's work.

I think if you didn't mean it to be mean, that you could just apologize or clarify.


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Anyway, I've already posted about how great this is, but I would like to say it again. It really looks awesome and I can't wait to see more updates.
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Leo_Otaku5 anno/i fa#2607846It is a hurtful comment to those who feel their work isn't perfect. You are basically saying any custom work asides from this looks like a child did it.
It's a shame that you view it as "It looking like a child's work means that it's crap" versus "It means that my sculpting isn't a very high level and I have room to improve." If something looks like it was done by a 5 year old I am supposed to say that "Oh wow this looks like it belongs in the Moma!" instead of "Good job on your efforts! You have room to improve so I look forward to how it evolves."

You could feel free to PM me if you want to argue any further to prove I am wrong because I don't want to derail the comments on this post. Apparently my comment was thumbed enough to prove that what I'm saying is valid enough to an extent.
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sarunamirabu5 anno/i fa#2607840I never said anywhere in my post that there was something wrong with it. I even say later on that there are 50 year olds who draw stick figures.
I also said my own sculpting looks like it was done by a 15 year old. I can even go on to say how paintings in the Moma look like they're done by a 5 year old. There's nothing wrong with it.
It is a hurtful comment to those who feel their work isn't perfect. You are basically saying any custom work asides from this looks like a child did it.
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Leo_Otaku5 anno/i fa#2607827That's really harsh, demeaning and pretty uncalled for. I love seeing people's work and their progress. Who cares if they don't look immaculate, or perfect we are people who are passionate about a series or work and want to share our love with others. What's wrong with that?
I never said anywhere in my post that there was something wrong with it. I even say later on that there are 50 year olds who draw stick figures.

I also said my own sculpting looks like it was done by a 15 year old. I can even go on to say how paintings in the Moma look like they're done by a 5 year old. There's nothing wrong with it.
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sarunamirabu5 anno/i fa#2604131I mean this in the most endearing way possible because I think it's something a lot of people here are thinking but can't really say: your project is the only one I've seen on here so far in the blogs that doesn't look like it's done by a 12 year old. That's really harsh, demeaning and pretty uncalled for. I love seeing people's work and their progress. Who cares if they don't look immaculate, or perfect we are people who are passionate about a series or work and want to share our love with others. What's wrong with that?
Moro5 anno/i fa#2605513What a shame that you had to start over! But as you said, it's an opportunity to improve on previous methods...
I'm impressed with the details on the hair. The freeze-carve method works really well for fine details, I think, though it's backfired on me sometimes when my WIP snapped because the cold made it brittle.
(unimportant feelings under the spoiler, feel free to ignore them, OP) View spoilerHide spoilerI don't ever want to post anything custom I make or work on now. What sarunamirabu said really hurts a lot to hear... I work hard on my custom painting and/or sculpting projects but now I see they aren't worth anything if they aren't flawless professional quality, and no one would want to see them. And no one who said anything nice would really mean it.
I guess I should, in a way, be grateful she was open with it, because it means I don't need to waste time posting anything I make to people who will just think "a 12 year old did it."
I'd love to see your work, I'd ignore this comment. I love seeing people's work. There is lots to learn from doing sculpture. I've only had experience with clay so far and tried Sculpty. Regardless of quality everything is part of learning and building your skill. Don't give up.
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