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Demigod_Dan26 giorno/i fa#80512887The argument ended when you called a shop irrelevant due to being Western while on the subject of scarcity items (as if international trading doesn't exist while hunting for x scarcity item). If you look hard enough you'll obviously find ridiculous examples like the 65k one, but I don't feel like explaining all the factors of how to make up a general -estimate- for the current market price of something which is as close to accurate as it can be to you.

Because you can't. I didn't cherry pick one of their listings, most of their listings are wildly above that of the real aftermarket prices. Here's a cursory look at the Native figures they're selling:

44k Solaris vs. 28k Manda order.mandarake... solarisjapan.co...

26k Solaris vs. 12k Manda order.mandarake... solarisjapan.co...

36k Solaris vs. 23k Manda order.mandarake... solarisjapan.co...

34k Solaris vs. 22k Manda order.mandarake... solarisjapan.co...

Same condition, same item, same location.

This is not a difference of 1,000 or 2,000 yen, this is a difference of 5,000+ yen or even 10,000+ yen. Honestly, I could probably provide another 50 examples of this. So how are their prices, in any way, an accurate representation of the real aftermarket? Would love to know.
22 giorno/i fa
Chloe-tsundere The louise otaku
Gosh huge walls of texts about prices. Pay what you want guys :')

Guess I unsubscribe for now...
25 giorno/i fa
October31st26 giorno/i fa#80473057en.wikipedia.or...
I looked on Solaris for Native figures and immediately saw this.
solarisjapan.co...
They're selling an unopened figure for 65k yen while it's 12k unopened on Mandarake currently (order.mandarake...)
This is just a random example. How is this at all accurate? I've even bought from Solaris before, but their prices are completely arbitrary and people often complain about stores overpricing in the comments section here for a reason. This is like using Nippon Yasan or Nin-nin-game for the "current aftermarket value". They get away with this because people who don't know much about how the hobby works, or can't use Japanese sites, will fall for it. And that's how they profit. It also works especially well for websites which undervalue (while websites like Amiami preowned, Mandarake, Surugaya, etc. will not), because it's the only option for most people that are heavily import taxed.
Surugaya's kaitori/buyback system works in their favour because they buy figures back at half price or less (here, here's their Native category - most of them you'd have to actually email and inquire them, but it's irrelevant because they won't deal with people outside of Japan - www.suruga-ya.j...[]=brand=%E3%83%8D%E3%82%A4%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3%83%96(native) - I did notice that they are offering roughly around half the price of the listings they have for some of these, though) but they constantly have sales on different categories for almost everything. I think you'd know this if you'd used them before... they're constantly emailing me sales every week. There's really no indication that buying something will bump up the price of their future listings, nor bump up their offering price, and it's irrelevant with the amount of discounts and weekly category sales they have. It's just an appeal to ignorance fallacy you're using here.
I have no idea why of all things you chose a gaming console to compare this to. It's a country/store/exclusive figure which appreciated in value (and then declined, it seems, over the last 2 years) vs. an unreleased console which won't be rare, country-exclusive, limited, or appreciating in value.


Demigod_Dan26 giorno/i fa#80512887The argument ended when you called a shop irrelevant due to being Western while on the subject of scarcity items (as if international trading doesn't exist while hunting for x scarcity item). If you look hard enough you'll obviously find ridiculous examples like the 65k one, but I don't feel like explaining all the factors of how to make up a general -estimate- for the current market price of something which is as close to accurate as it can be to you. Oh, and I sell items to Suru just fine despite living in EU. How? Well...who knows :^)
A gaming console is something which lots of people prioritize when it comes to spending their money; it's a popular consumer item in the ~$300-500 price category. It was just an example of what that amount of money can get you, functionality / entertainment / longevity wise. There are of course many other examples, all of which I'd first spend that kinda money on before I'd get this for that amount.
You speak with your wallet after all; by doing so on a product you enable the creators of it to keep on doing that and greed / exploitation will soon follow in most cases. Any critical sound nowadays is met by lots of people being offended by it, which serves as somewhat of a free pass to further exploitation. Heck, personally I'm done buying consoles as well despite the example lol (anime game censorship / not actually next gen reasons). The PS5 is going to be a huge mess but that won't stop people who can't read the writings on the wall from splashing that cash on it :P


Why all the arguing over her price?

Sure, I want her, but nothing is worth anything unless someone is willing to pay for it.

And I'm not willing to spend $400+ on her - Are you?

If not, then don't.

Yes, the eBay mentality of "Other people listed it for this much, therefore it must be worth that!" is infuriating. People are scared of seller's remorse.

But publicly arguing about it only seeks to artificially spike her price further.
25 giorno/i fa
October31st26 giorno/i fa#80473057en.wikipedia.or...
I looked on Solaris for Native figures and immediately saw this.
solarisjapan.co...
They're selling an unopened figure for 65k yen while it's 12k unopened on Mandarake currently (order.mandarake...)
This is just a random example. How is this at all accurate?


The argument ended when you called a shop irrelevant due to being Western while on the subject of scarcity items (as if international trading doesn't exist while hunting for x scarcity item). If you look hard enough you'll obviously find ridiculous examples like the 65k one, but I don't feel like explaining all the factors of how to make up a general -estimate- for the current market price of something which is as close to accurate as it can be to you. Oh, and I sell items to Suru just fine despite living in EU. How? Well...who knows :^)

A gaming console is something which lots of people prioritize when it comes to spending their money; it's a popular consumer item in the ~$300-500 price category. It was just an example of what that amount of money can get you, functionality / entertainment / longevity wise. There are of course many other examples, all of which I'd first spend that kinda money on before I'd get this for that amount.

You speak with your wallet after all; by doing so on a product you enable the creators of it to keep on doing that and greed / exploitation will soon follow in most cases. Any critical sound nowadays is met by lots of people being offended by it, which serves as somewhat of a free pass to further exploitation. Heck, personally I'm done buying consoles as well despite the example lol (anime game censorship / not actually next gen reasons). The PS5 is going to be a huge mess but that won't stop people who can't read the writings on the wall from splashing that cash on it :P
26 giorno/i fa
Demigod_Dan28 giorno/i fa#80403619The second link one is a good current market value representation I'd say. Also the minimum = an auction that starts at 1 Yen. Unless you can find a recent MSIB auction which also started out as 1 Yen and ended as a lower price than the 29k one, then the 29k one = the lowest recent sale price for MSIB.
Solaris, as much as you might dislike them, are not irrelevant. In these times, Might determines what's "right". Having supply of a scarce item X which others no longer have in the same perfect condition = might. And Solaris is actually selling these items for at least a price that's close to the next one they're listing, how do you think they afford to restock these items? This is how these sites work whose stock depends on people selling it to them, you'd think you, who can apparently read websites, would also be able to read the market behavior on them. xD
Go try it out with Suruga-ya on an item with 1 in stock, a transparent one because they list their buy price, stock # remaining etc. If example item is say, 5k, and you buy it, they may or may not raise their listed buy price, and once someone sells it to them for that buy price then they will re-list it for 6-7k (varies in some cases but you get the gist). This is the general rule of thumb for low stock goods with reasonable or higher value. The bigger the value/demand of it, the bigger the next price hike will be.


en.wikipedia.or...

I looked on Solaris for Native figures and immediately saw this.

solarisjapan.co...

They're selling an unopened figure for 65k yen while it's 12k unopened on Mandarake currently (order.mandarake...)

This is just a random example. How is this at all accurate? I've even bought from Solaris before, but their prices are completely arbitrary and people often complain about stores overpricing in the comments section here for a reason. This is like using Nippon Yasan or Nin-nin-game for the "current aftermarket value". They get away with this because people who don't know much about how the hobby works, or can't use Japanese sites, will fall for it. And that's how they profit. It also works especially well for websites which undervalue (while websites like Amiami preowned, Mandarake, Surugaya, etc. will not), because it's the only option for most people that are heavily import taxed.

Surugaya's kaitori/buyback system works in their favour because they buy figures back at half price or less (here, here's their Native category - most of them you'd have to actually email and inquire them, but it's irrelevant because they won't deal with people outside of Japan - www.suruga-ya.j...[]=brand=%E3%83%8D%E3%82%A4%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3%83%96(native) - I did notice that they are offering roughly around half the price of the listings they have for some of these, though) but they constantly have sales on different categories for almost everything. I think you'd know this if you'd used them before... they're constantly emailing me sales every week. There's really no indication that buying something will bump up the price of their future listings, nor bump up their offering price, and it's irrelevant with the amount of discounts and weekly category sales they have. It's just an appeal to ignorance fallacy you're using here.

I have no idea why of all things you chose a gaming console to compare this to. It's a country/store/exclusive figure which appreciated in value (and then declined, it seems, over the last 2 years) vs. an unreleased console which won't be rare, country-exclusive, limited, or appreciating in value.
26 giorno/i fa
October31st29 giorno/i fa#80403096What minimum price? I searched the HIGHEST price of closed-off auctions on Y!JP: auctions.yahoo....
And here's one for 42k starting bid, which completely throws your "auction point" out the window: page.auctions.y...
These are both brand new. Western sites like Solaris are irrelevant, that's like saying that because there's one listed for $1,200 on eBay, it sells for that price. They're just listings, this is not in any way a real representation of the actual aftermarket.
So if someone buys this arbitrarily priced 47k unopened one, that's their choice and all, but that still doesn't set the new aftermarket for what they're actually selling for.


The second link one is a good current market value representation I'd say. Also the minimum = an auction that starts at 1 Yen. Unless you can find a recent MSIB auction which also started out as 1 Yen and ended as a lower price than the 29k one, then the 29k one = the lowest recent sale price for MSIB.

Solaris, as much as you might dislike them, are not irrelevant. In these times, Might determines what's "right". Having supply of a scarce item X which others no longer have in the same perfect condition = might. And Solaris is actually selling these items for at least a price that's close to the next one they're listing, how do you think they afford to restock these items? This is how these sites work whose stock depends on people selling it to them, you'd think you, who can apparently read websites, would also be able to read the market behavior on them. xD

Go try it out with Suruga-ya on an item with 1 in stock, a transparent one because they list their buy price, stock # remaining etc. If example item is say, 5k, and you buy it, they may or may not raise their listed buy price, and once someone sells it to them for that buy price then they will re-list it for 6-7k (varies in some cases but you get the gist). This is the general rule of thumb for low stock goods with reasonable or higher value. The bigger the value/demand of it, the bigger the next price hike will be.
28 giorno/i fa
Demigod_Dan29 giorno/i fa#80402507No one is saying that Solaris is "the price". You took the minimum price example, I took the maximum as devil's advocate. The answer is somewhere between the two, and the auction point still stands. No argument from it being that price on the sites you mentioned, but those are not MSIB. And yes, prices can make jumps in a matter of months...to see it go from somewhere in the middle of 29-47k to the price of a PS5 in that period of time isn't unthinkable. Anything else?

What minimum price? I searched the HIGHEST price of closed-off auctions on Y!JP: auctions.yahoo....

And here's one for 42k starting bid, which completely throws your "auction point" out the window: page.auctions.y...

These are both brand new. Western sites like Solaris are irrelevant, that's like saying that because there's one listed for $1,200 on eBay, it sells for that price. They're just listings, this is not in any way a real representation of the actual aftermarket.

So if someone buys this arbitrarily priced 47k unopened one, that's their choice and all, but that still doesn't set the new aftermarket for what they're actually selling for.
29 giorno/i fa
October31st29 giorno/i fa#80400009I know what I'm looking at. I can actually read the website. It says unopened in the title and they have a ranking system, it's rank S, which says it's unopened but the box has some damage. You're looking at the wrong thing.
Using Solaris is a bad example of gauging the current aftermarket when there's Y!JP, Mercari, Surugaya, and Mandarake for that. It's 22-26k preowned.
You're right though. Maybe the figure will double in price before the PS5 releases within the next six months. "xD".


No one is saying that Solaris is "the price". You took the minimum price example, I took the maximum as devil's advocate. The answer is somewhere between the two, and the auction point still stands. No argument from it being that price on the sites you mentioned, but those are not MSIB. And yes, prices can make jumps in a matter of months...to see it go from somewhere in the middle of 29-47k to the price of a PS5 in that period of time isn't unthinkable. Anything else?
29 giorno/i fa
Demigod_Dan29 giorno/i fa#80389004At condition the seller states 状態 未使用に近い which means "condition: almost unused". It's also an auction of a few days which makes it easy to miss for some people who may be willing to spend more. It's also up MSIB for 47k Yen at Solaris. Since it's clear that the price will only snowball on from this point, the only question is whether it will do that fast enough in the timeframe of now ---> PS5 release. Hmm I don't think that will happen either...maybe if PS5 release gets delayed though xD

I know what I'm looking at. I can actually read the website. It says unopened in the title and they have a ranking system, it's rank S, which says it's unopened but the box has some damage. You're looking at the wrong thing.

Using Solaris is a bad example of gauging the current aftermarket when there's Y!JP, Mercari, Surugaya, and Mandarake for that. It's 22-26k preowned.

You're right though. Maybe the figure will double in price before the PS5 releases within the next six months. "xD".
29 giorno/i fa